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Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo)
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:07:09 -0400
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:00:35 CDT, Justin Shore said:
There may not be a law preventing you from asking him for proof of legitimate customers, but there is a law preventing him from answering you. Google for CPNI and "red flag".
Hmm... I'm not sure how "Yes, XYZ is a customer of mine" qualifies as a "red flag" question for identity theft. I'm also not sure how "XYZ is a customer" qualifies as CPNI, which (according to the first few pages of Google hits) comprises things like calling/billing records. http://www.privacyalerts.org/phone-records.html says: For clarity, a "record" in this section is the same thing as a "call log" or a "text log." A "phone record" typically includes: date, time, sender geographic location, recipient phone number, recipient geographic location, and duration of call. A "text record" includes: date, time, and recipient phone number. Nope. Doesn't seem like "xyz is a customer" qualifies there... http://www.ipbusinessmag.com/articles.php?issue_id=63&article_id=387 says: Space does not permit an extended review of the FTC rules here, but they apply to "creditors" who maintain ongoing accounts with customers for repeated transactions. Cell phone accounts are offered by the rules as one example of a "covered" account which is subject to the rules. If a business maintains such "covered accounts" it must comply with the new rules to prevent identity theft of its account holders. Hmm... "xyz is a customer" doesn't seem to run afoul of that either. Feel free to enlighten me about what I missed here?
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- Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo) Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 12)
- Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo) Steve Gibbard (Sep 12)
- Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo) Gadi Evron (Sep 12)
- Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo) Christopher Morrow (Sep 12)
- Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo) Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 14)
- Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo) Randy Bush (Sep 11)
- Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo) Justin Shore (Sep 22)
- Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo) Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 22)
- Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo) Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 22)
- Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo) Justin Shore (Sep 23)
- Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo) Tim Franklin (Sep 11)
- Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo) Jay R. Ashworth (Sep 08)