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Re: BCP38 dismissal
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:05:16 -0400
On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:
Count you which way? You seem to agree with me. Everyone should be doing both, not discounting BCP38 because they aren't seeing an attack right now.
No one sees attacks that BCP38 would stop?Wow, I thought things like the Kaminsky bug were big news. I guess all that was for nothing?
(Yes, I am being sarcastic. Anyone who thinks attacks which BCP 38 would stop are not happening in the wild is .. I believe the phrase used was "confused and misinformed".)
-- TTFN, patrick
On Sep 4, 2008, at 9:50 AM, John C. A. Bambenek wrote:Count me in. There is no reason to limit our defenses to the one thing that we think is important at one instance in time... attackers change and adapt and multimodal defense is simply good policy.On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Jo Rhett <jrhett () netconsonance com> wrote:On Sep 4, 2008, at 7:24 AM, James Jun wrote:Indeed... In today's internet, protecting your own box (cp- policer/control plane filtering) is far more important IMO than implementing BCP38 whenmuchof attack traffic comes from legitimate IP sources anyway (see botnets).I'm sorry, but nonsense statements such as these burn the blood. Sure, yes, protecting yourself is so much more important than protecting anyone else.Anyone else want to stand up and join the "I am an asshole" club? -- Jo RhettNet Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source andother randomness-- Jo RhettNet Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness
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