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Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision
From: "Alexander Harrowell" <a.harrowell () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:27:32 +0000
OK. This seems to be a flaw in RIPE RIS, a pity because BGPlay is great. - original message - Subject: Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision From: Todd Underwood <todd () renesys com> Date: 13/11/2008 8:05 pm alexander, all, On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 07:56:26PM +0000, Alexander Harrowell wrote:
It may be the North American NOG, but it's been said before that it functions as a GNOG, G for Global. I don't think Brazil is insignificant. I respect Todd's work greatly, but I think he's wrong on this point.
you misread me. i did not say that brazil was insignificant. it's not. it has some of the fastest growing internet in latin america. i said that *this* hijacking took place in an insignificant corner of the internet. i mean this AS-map wise rather than geographically. this hijacking didn't even spread beyond one or two ASes, one of whom just happened to be a RIPE RIS peer. real hijackings leak into dozens or hundreds or thousands of ASNs. they spread far and wide. that's why people carry them out, when they do. this one was stopped in its tracks in a very small portion of one corner of the AS graph. as such, i don't count it as a hijacking or leak of any great significance and wouldn't want to alert anyone about it. that's why i recommend that prefix hijacking detection systems do thresholding of peers to prevent a single, rogue, unrepresentative peer from reporting a hijacking when none is really happening. others may have a different approach, but without thresholding prefix alert systems can be noisy and more trouble than they are worth. sorry if it appears that i was denegrating .br . i was not. t. -- _____________________________________________________________________ todd underwood +1 603 643 9300 x101 renesys corporation todd () renesys com http://www.renesys.com/blog
Current thread:
- Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Scott Weeks (Nov 13)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Hank Nussbacher (Nov 13)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Todd Underwood (Nov 13)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Scott Weeks (Nov 13)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Alexander Harrowell (Nov 13)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Todd Underwood (Nov 13)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Jack Bates (Nov 13)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Danny McPherson (Nov 13)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Andree Toonk (Nov 17)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Todd Underwood (Nov 13)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Alexander Harrowell (Nov 13)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Martin List-Petersen (Nov 13)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Mohit Lad (Nov 13)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Josh Karlin (Nov 13)
- Re: Prefix Hijack Tool Comaprision Hank Nussbacher (Nov 13)