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Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts
From: Lamar Owen <lowen () pari edu>
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:39:15 -0500
On Tuesday 04 November 2008 11:55:01 Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Nov 4, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:The concept of "Transit Free" is a political failure, not a technical one.
We disagree.
[snip]
So I guess you could say the current situation is a political success.
I would say a 'qualified' political success. Like most other political solutions to technical problems, the concept of transit-free (and even the differentiation between transit and settlement-free peering) is a best-effort compromise, and works pretty well under most circumstances. But, which is worse: a completely 100% reachable Internet* with massive transit congestion that is massively expensive or the current partitionable Internet* that actually works and is affordable? Note: * There is no such thing as a 100% reachable 'Internet,' just a tangled lattice of interconnections of autonomous systems who provide best-effort interconnections. To what extent there IS an 'Internet' changes every second.
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- RE: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts, (continued)
- RE: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts David Schwartz (Nov 04)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 04)
- RE: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Tomas L. Byrnes (Nov 04)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 04)
- RE: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts michael.dillon (Nov 04)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Paul Vixie (Nov 05)
- RE: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts michael.dillon (Nov 05)
- RE: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Church, Charles (Nov 05)
- RE: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts david raistrick (Nov 05)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Kraig Beahn (Nov 06)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Lamar Owen (Nov 04)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Niels Bakker (Nov 04)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 04)
- Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts Larry Sheldon (Nov 04)