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Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs
From: Phil Regnauld <regnauld () catpipe net>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:53:38 +0200
Matthew Petach (mpetach) writes:
If they simply use "smtp" as the hostname, most of the current resolver libraries will append the local domain name, so that instead of reaching my A record for smtp, they'll end up trying to reach smtp.their.domain.
Actually, that's a good point -- although it will try first with the domains specified in the search list first. So I wouldn't worry too much about this kind of thing. But considering the amount of flag waving and "Caution: Wet Floor" signs ICANN placed when it rolled out something has harmless as the IDN tests in the root, I'm surprised that they haven't thought about all the non-FQDNs that will suddenly resolve, including all the private TLDs that people use internally. It's bad practice, and isn't recommended anyway, but I do expect it will cause many more fun (read: annoying) calls to helpdesks of the sort "where did my mail go ?". And mail won't be the only thing.
Will operating system manufacturers release updated resolver libraries that no longer assume that single token names should have the local domain attached?
I know a lot of mail clients that won't accept to send mail to user@tld, but they certainly will accept user@smtp as the outgoing mail name. Luckily, that will match the search list as well first.
Or should I always ensure that resolvers reach my domain explicitly by including the trailing "dot" in all uses, so that my email would be given out as "myname@smtp." in the hopes that everyone would correctly remember to add the "." at the end when entering my email address into their mail clients?
A fair number will barf on this (for now).
Or does the current resolver logic already handle these cases (check root, work your way down stopping at the first match found; if you run out of tokens in the string being resolved, append the local domain name to the string and start the process over)?
The other way around. And if I ping 'dk', my resolver stops after "catpipe.net" and my other private domain. It doesn't try "dk.", even though dk. has an A record associated with it. I get NXDOMAIN.
Simply looking to solidify my understanding of how these new names would resolve.
Not too many problems, I think, except for resolver libraries that fail to find the name in the domains listed in the search list, and continue to '.'. It's not standard practice though. Phil
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- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs, (continued)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Tony Finch (Jun 30)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Eric Brunner-Williams (Jun 30)
- ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Tomas L. Byrnes (Jun 27)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Gadi Evron (Jun 27)
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- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Gadi Evron (Jun 27)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Roger Marquis (Jun 29)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs John Levine (Jun 29)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Phil Regnauld (Jun 30)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Stephane Bortzmeyer (Jun 29)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Matthew Petach (Jun 30)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Phil Regnauld (Jun 30)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs David Conrad (Jun 30)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Phil Regnauld (Jun 30)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs John Levine (Jun 29)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs David Conrad (Jun 30)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Marshall Eubanks (Jun 30)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs John Levine (Jun 30)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Matthew Petach (Jun 30)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Phil Regnauld (Jun 30)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs John Levine (Jun 30)
- Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Simon Waters (Jun 30)
- RE: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs Frank Bulk (Jun 30)