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Re: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)]
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:19:49 -0700
Frank Bulk - iNAME wrote:
When I hear "cloud services" I think "in the network" even though it appears all these cloud services perform their work at a data center as an outsourced service. Is there a vendor that makes a product that perform spam/malware filtering literally in the network, i.e. as a service provider, can I provide spam filtering for the enterprises in my customer base by adding a piece of network gear? I'm not aware of one today except those who provide enterprise-oriented gateways like SonicWall.
dpi boxes from a number of vendors can do that sort of thing... whether they can do it fast enough to be inline with your compute cloud is another question entirely.
That said the result is fairly perilous when rejecting a message involves forging packets. and of course tls supporting mta's will be opaque to the network traffic inspecting device.
Frank -----Original Message-----From: Roland Dobbins [mailto:rdobbins () cisco com] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 9:20 PMTo: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)<snip>This is far different from free email Google or Hotmail - these cloud services (EC2, Mosso, Slicehost, Terremark's Enterprise Cloud, Telstra's new service, AppEngine, et.al.) are where many popular new Internet applications will live, and, even more significantly, where an increasing amount large-scale enterprise computing (like banking, pharma, government, and so forth) will take place. I foresee interesting times ahead. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins () cisco com> // +66.83.266.6344 mobile History is a great teacher, but it also lies with impunity. -- John Robb
Current thread:
- Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re:, (continued)
- Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Paul Vixie (Jun 22)
- Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs) Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jun 22)
- Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs) Roland Dobbins (Jun 22)
- RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re:Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs) Dustin Jurman (Jun 22)
- Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] Frank Bulk - iNAME (Jun 23)
- Re: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jun 23)
- RE: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip addressreputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] Tomas L. Byrnes (Jun 23)
- Re: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip addressreputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jun 23)
- Re: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip addressreputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] Adrian Chadd (Jun 23)
- RE: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] Frank Bulk (Jun 23)
- Re: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] Joel Jaeggli (Jun 23)
- RE: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] Frank Bulk (Jun 23)
- Re: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] Joel Jaeggli (Jun 23)
- RE: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] Frank Bulk - iNAME (Jun 23)
- Re: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] Joel Jaeggli (Jun 23)
- Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs) Nathan Ward (Jun 22)
- Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs) Brandon Galbraith (Jun 22)
- Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs) Stephen Satchell (Jun 22)
- Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs) Nathan Ward (Jun 22)
- Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs) Eliot Lear (Jun 23)
- Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs) Paul Vixie (Jun 23)