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Re: Lessons from the AU model
From: Alastair Johnson <aj () sneep net>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:55:16 +1100
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
Some claim that metering is 50% of cost in the telco industry, and I have no reason to doubt that. Staying out of metering saves money on all levels, less complex equipment, less supportcalls, less hassle with billing.
I have to agree with this, although the figure is trending downwards. Certainly one situation I have seen with ~$200mm in broadband metering revenue was spending $80m-ish a year on the various platforms that managed metering/rating/billing and the ops cost that went with it.
The flipside is that I can see products (BRAS/BNG and their associated control plane solutions) being developed, launched, and marketed right now that make this much easier to manage. If the telephants adopt this, then it will reduce their billing cost substantially - although it adjusts (disrupts?) their traditional messy OSS/BSS.
I am also hesitant regarding billing when a person is being DDOS:ed. How is that handled in .AU? I can see billing being done on outgoing traffic from the customer because they can control that, but what about incoming, the customer has only partial control over that.
In my experience (NZ & AU) inbound DDoS attacks are usually waived by the service provider. This may not apply with all ISPs, but when I drove an ISP we did try and protect customers from that form of bill-shock.
aj.
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- Re: Lessons from the AU model, (continued)
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- Re: Lessons from the AU model Tom Vest (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Mark Newton (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Tom Vest (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Mark Newton (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Tom Vest (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Geoff Huston (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Paul Vixie (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Mark Newton (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Simon Lyall (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Alastair Johnson (Jan 22)
- RE: Lessons from the AU model Ben Butler (Jan 22)
- RE: Lessons from the AU model Ben Butler (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Sean Donelan (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Sean Donelan (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Mark Newton (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Alastair Johnson (Jan 22)
- RE: Lessons from the AU model Frank Bulk (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Tom Vest (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Sean Donelan (Jan 22)