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Re: Telecom Collapse?
From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:52:24 -0600 (CST)
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Wayne E. Bouchard <web () typo org> wrote:That the old ILECs are having problems due to the fact that few if any of them know how to run a decent business is not exactly news. IMO, it might be best if some of them were finaly placed in the position of figuring out how to come into the 21st century and actually compete for business.I wasn't going to say anything, but as long as you brought it up ... http://www.renesys.com/blog/2008/12/fiber-to-the-home-ideal-econom.shtml Outlandish and bizarre, yes, but perhaps no more so than the other things you read in the papers these days? --jim
Yeah, outlandish and bizarre: http://www.newnetworks.com/broadbandscandals.htm We already *PAID* for that system. Well, ownership of strands aside, it would have been similar. And the thing is, years later, we have people coming along and thinking that this is in any way visionary or innovative. (That is NOT meant as an attack on you, the authors at New America, or the idea, but rather an attack on the most fantastic bit of spin and propaganda manipulation that has allowed the ILEC's to get away with this, almost completely unnoticed, so that nobody even remembers what was promised. Can you feel the despair?) So, the question is, how do we reclaim these funds from the ILEC's? Or how do we force the ILEC's to produce the system promised, and release it from their monopolies? In an environment where cities are getting ticked off and deploying fiber (Monticello, MN) and then getting sued for doing so (TDS Telecom) even after the carrier initially refused to do such a deployment, I am really very strongly in favor of this sort of self-determination. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
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