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Re: Dynamically Changing Exit Policy (iBGP)


From: Benjamin Howell <bhowell () iglou com>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:23:24 -0400


On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 12:55:24AM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote:

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Benjamin Howell wrote:

On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:53:50PM -0400, Deepak Jain wrote:
You can "nail" down your announcements to external peers by tying their
network blocks to a route-of-last resort on one of your loopbacks. This
will prevent flapping externally.

Point taken, but it's actually difficult to nail down all of our
routes. We have some lone /24's that are not subnetted and thus cannot
be used with an 'ip route ... null0' statement. When WAN connectivity
drops, the routes flap if we don't have a stable iBGP session. Thus I'd
like to steer well clear of severing the iBGP session.

Not subnetting them doesn't mean you can't
ip route a.b.c.d 255.255.255.0 null0 250
while still routing the /24s internally (with lower metric) or having them
connected on some interface.

Whoops, some oversights make you feel like an idiot. You're right.

Only a single internal /30 route will be removed when an interface goes
down. I can't come up with a route-map implementation that would
add/remove the weights to the routes already received from our eBGP
neighbors. If I'm missing something, please let me know.
...

I'd like to dynamically change from best-exit to a "hot potato" exit
policy when an internal DS3 fails. We fail over to a much lower
bandwidth link and would like to avoid sending anything but internal
traffic over that link. If it's not already clear, this change needs to
happen automatically.

Are you talking about a single internal DS3, or the more general case of 
"if any of our internal DS3s are down, we need to route differently"?

If it's a simple case of two DS3 connected routers which are iBGP peers 
and also have directly connected eBGP peers, could you use route-maps to 
set ip next-hop on iBGP exchanged external routes (setting the ip next-hop 
to be the IP of the other end of the internal DS3, with a second IP of an 
eBGP neighbor interface)?  I haven't tried it, but it seems like it might 
do what you want.

Indeed, I'll give it some thought. That seems like it should work. In my
case, it is just two DS3 connected routers. I figured I'd leave the
question open-ended though for other readers' benefit.

Another possiblility (I've never tried) would be to configure multiple 
iBGP sessions...one using loopback IPs, the other using the DS3 interface 
IPs, exchanging internal routes over both sessions, while exchanging 
external routes over only the second.  If the DS3 goes down, the session 
exchanging external routes dies.  I'm not sure you can do this, but I 
think by having different peer/endpoint IPs (loopbacks for one session, 
serial interface IPs for the other), it may work.

Actually this suggestion seems to be a common theme. I hadn't considered
this possibility and it seems like it should work fine. David Burns also
suggested this in an email that wasn't directed to the list.

Thanks for everybody's input. I should have some workable options now.


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Ben Howell


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