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Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:32:22 +0200 (CEST)
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
When 5% of the users don't play nicely with the rest of the 95% of the users; how can network operators manage the network so every user receives a fair share of the network capacity?
By making sure that the 5% of users upstream capacity doesn't cause the distribution and core to be full. If the 5% causes 90% of the traffic and at peak the core is 98% full, the 95% of the users that cause 10% of the traffic couldn't tell the different from if the core/distribution was only used at 10%.
If your access media doesn't support what's needed (it might be a shared media like cable) then your original bad engineering decision of choosing a shared media without fairness implemented from the beginning is something you have to live with, and you have to keep making bad decisions and implementations to patch what's already broken to begin with.
You can't rely on end user applications to play fair when it comes to ISP network being full, and if they don't play fair and it's filling up the end user access, then it's that single end user that gets affected by it, not their neighbors.
-- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
Current thread:
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?, (continued)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? James Blessing (Oct 23)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 23)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 24)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 24)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 25)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? michael.dillon (Oct 25)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Marshall Eubanks (Oct 25)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 25)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Marshall Eubanks (Oct 25)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 25)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 25)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sam Stickland (Oct 26)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 25)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 26)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Geo. (Oct 26)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 26)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 26)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 26)
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- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 27)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 28)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 28)