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Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?
From: Martin Barry <marty () supine com>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:42:53 +1000
$quoted_author = "Joe Greco" ;
That's approximately correct. The true answer to the thought experiment is "address those problems, don't continue to blindly pay those costs and complain about how unique your problems are." Because the problems are neither unique nor new - merely ingrained. People have solved them before."Address those problems" sounds quite a bit like an old Sam Kinnison routine, paraphrased as "move to where the broadband is! You live in a %*^&* expensive place." Sorry, but your statement comes across as arrogant, at least to me.It's arrogant to fix brokenness? Because I'm certainly there. In my experience, if you don't bother to address problems, they're very likely to remain, especially when money is involved on the opposite side.
it's arrogant to use throwaway lines like "address those problems" when the reality is a complex political and corporate stoush over a former government entity with a monopoly on the local loop. AU should be at a stage where the next generation network (FTTx, for some values of x hopefully approaching H) will be built by a new, neutral entity owned by a consortium of telcos/ISPs with wholesale charges set on a cost recovery basis. if either political party realises how important this is for AUs future and stares down telstra in their game of ACCC chicken, that may even become a reality. cheers marty -- You get 10 points for difficulty, but for execution you get minus three. "Holding On" - Lazy Susan
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