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Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT)
From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:49:20 -0500 (CDT)
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Stephen Satchell wrote:
Gadi Evron wrote:Anyway, I have a friend who used managed to get "Not A Janitor" on his business card.My all-time favorite business card was one from Autodesk from the chief financial officer, who appeared to be a real Niven fan: Speaker to Bankers
Unless he was an Orson Scott Card fan and then this means something else entirely. :) I must admit, the is the most "family" thread I have seen on NANOG in a long time. Back on topic though, what do you find to be the three top time consuming issues with a NOC, and how does a NOC help you solve these issues? As an example on my burrowed joke from earlier on 'reboot moneky', the ability to call the NOC and ask someone to reboot a machine saves a ton of time and the NOC engineers learn a lot by helping along, as part of a process to becoming fully fledged "snobs" like the rest of us. It may be a joke to me, but as I mentioned, I got my behind kicked by a nice girl. Where would we be without our NOCs? Some things the NOC used to help us with quite lot, that were not directly related to their obvious job description: 1. Reboots (as specified earlier). 2. Getting files on and off machines (via email to the NOC?) 3. Installing machines. Meaning, tasks which either take a lot of time or make us go down three floors to do ourselves. Some innovations such as remote KVM (whether over IP or not) and later on USB controls over remote KVM really helped along when they showed up, and made that "broken phone" work much better as we could do things on our own again (this is of course assuming folks don't just "telnet" to machines which may be on completely different networks). So, aside to monitoring, assisting and high-end tech support (not necessarily to customers) what are the top things your NOC does for you, and what did these things used t be 3 years ago? Do you see any of these things as possible to automate or solve in a technological fashion? I figure if we all have different titles, we may use our NOCs for different purposes and see different needs, and I wonder where that middle ground between all of us is. Gadi. -- "beepbeep it, i leave work, stop reading sec lists and im still hearing gadi" - HD Moore to Gadi Evron on IM, on Gadi's interview on npr, March 2007.
Current thread:
- RE: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT), (continued)
- RE: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Justin M. Streiner (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Pete Templin (Mar 15)
- RE: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Gadi Evron (Mar 15)
- RE: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Donald Stahl (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Joseph S D Yao (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Jeremy Chadwick (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Donald Stahl (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Randy Bush (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) William Yardley (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Stephen Satchell (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Gadi Evron (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Edward B. DREGER (Mar 16)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Dave Pooser (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HTruly OT) Joseph S D Yao (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HTruly OT) Dave Pooser (Mar 15)
- RE: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Smith, Steve B (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Daniel J McDonald (Mar 15)
- Re: NOC Personel Question (Possibly OT) Joseph S D Yao (Mar 15)
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