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Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:39:35 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Joe Greco wrote:
I think there's a bit of a difference, in that when you're using every commercial WiFi hotspot and hotel login system, that they redirect everything. Would you truly consider that to be the same thing as one of those services redirecting "www.cnn.com" to their own ad-filled news page?
Let's get "real." That's not what those ISPs are doing in this case.They aren't pretending to be the real IRC server (the redirected IRC server indicates its not the real one). The ISP isn't send ad-fill messages. The irc.foonet.com server clearly sends several cleaning commands used by several well-known, and very old, Bots. I might have given the server a different name, but its obviously not trying to impersonate the real irc server.
Do you prefer ISPs to break everything, including the users VOIP service (can't call 9-1-1), e-mail service (can't contact the help desk), web service (can't look for help)? Or should the ISP only disrupt the minimum number of services needed to clean the Bot?
Current thread:
- Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox, (continued)
- Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox William Allen Simpson (Jul 22)
- Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox Sean Donelan (Jul 22)
- Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox Steven Haigh (Jul 22)
- RE: DNS Hijacking by Cox Raymond L. Corbin (Jul 22)
- Multiple different ISPs respond to Bots (was RE: DNS Hijacking by Cox) Sean Donelan (Jul 22)
- Re: Multiple different ISPs respond to Bots (was RE: DNS Hijacking by Cox) Matthew Sullivan (Jul 22)
- Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox Joe Greco (Jul 22)
- How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox) Sean Donelan (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking by Cox) Leigh Porter (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking Joe Greco (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking Sean Donelan (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking Joe Greco (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking Sean Donelan (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking Joe Greco (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking Sean Donelan (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking Joe Greco (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking Sean Donelan (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking Joe Greco (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking Sean Donelan (Jul 23)
- Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking Joe Greco (Jul 23)