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Re: TCP congestion


From: Warren Kumari <warren () kumari net>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:23:45 -0400


So, when you say "pickup again after 15-20 seconds" do you mean that it takes 15-20 seconds to ramp back up to the original speed or that the line is basically idle for 15-20 seconds before any packets start flowing again? If the latter, I'd suggest that you take a look at the apps some more..

Actually, you might want to try and duplicate the issue with identical machines sitting next to each other and a piece of cable between them...


On Jul 12, 2007, at 10:42 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote:


Philip Lavine wrote:
Can someone explain how a TCP conversation could degenerate into congestion avoidance on a long fat pipe if there is no packet/ segment loss or out of order segments? Here is the situation:
WAN = 9 Mbps ATM connection between NY and LA (70 ms delay)
LAN = Gig Ethernet
Receiver: LA server = Win2k3
Sender: NY server = Linux 2.4
Data transmission typical = bursty but never more that 50% of CIR
Segment sizes =  64k to 1460k but mostly less than 100k
Typical Problem Scenario: Data transmission is humming along consistently at 2 Mbps, all of a sudden transmission rates drop to nothing then pickup again after 15-20 seconds. Prior to the drop off (based on packet capture) there is usually a DUP ACK/SACK coming from the receiver followed by the Retransmits and congestion avoidence. What is strange is there is nothing prior to the drop off that would be an impetus for congestion (no high BW utilization or packet loss). Also is there any known TCP issues between linux 2.4 kernel and windows 2003 SP1? Mainly are there issues regarding the handling of SACK, DUP ACK's and Fast Retransmits. Of course we all know that this is not a application issue since developers make flawless socket code, but if it is network issue how is caused?

Duplex mismatch on an intermediate ethernet segment?

Oooh, I like that one....


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