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Re: Google wants to be your Internet
From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:46:48 -0600 (CST)
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: <snip>
ISPs probably don't have an interest in BT caching because of 1) cost of ownership, 2) legal concerns (if an ISP cached a publicly distributed copy of some pirated software, who's then responsible?),
They cache the web, which has the same chance of being illegal content. <snip>
The result of these items already been shown: BT encryption. I personally know of 3 individuals who have their client to use en- cryption only (disabling non-encrypted connection support). For security? Nope -- solely because their ISP uses a rate limiting device.
Yep. Users will find a way to maintain functionality.
Bram Cohen's official statement is that using encryption to get around this "is silly" because "not many ISPs are implementing such devices" (maybe not *right now*, Bram, but in the next year or two, they likely will): http://bramcohen.livejournal.com/29886.html
I don't know of many user ISPs which don't implement them, you kidding?:) <snip>
So my question is this: how exactly do we (as administrators of systems or networks) get companies, managers, and even other administrators, to think differently about solving this? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |
Current thread:
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet, (continued)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Adrian Chadd (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Stephen Sprunk (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Randy Bush (Jan 20)
- CDN & ISP (was: Re: Google wants to be your Internet) Michal Krsek (Jan 22)
- Re: CDN & ISP (was: Re: Google wants to be your Internet) Gadi Evron (Jan 22)
- Re: CDN & ISP (was: Re: Google wants to be your Internet) Mark Smith (Jan 22)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Gadi Evron (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Charlie Allom (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Travis H. (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Jeremy Chadwick (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Gadi Evron (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Jeroen Massar (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Stephen Sprunk (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Roland Dobbins (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Gadi Evron (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Alexander Harrowell (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Gadi Evron (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Mark Smith (Jan 20)