Re: botnets: web servers, end-systems and Vint Cerf

[Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>]

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Gadi Evron wrote:
> > > Public ISPs have been testing these types of systems for over 5 years.
> > > What sorts of differences can you think of that would explain why public
> > > ISPs have found them not very effective?
> > >
> > > Public ISPs have been using walled gardens for a long time for user
> > > registration and collecting credit card information.  So they know how to
> > > implement walled gardens.  But what happens when public ISPs use it for
> > > infected machines?
> >
> > Many already do, successfully.
> >
> > When I say many I actually mean I know of 6. 3 of them huge, 3 of them
> > relatively small.
>
> Interesting use of the word "many."  Many people use Multics.

:))

> I know of "many" more that have tested it and returned it to various 
> vendors.  There are several tough problems people are still trying
> to solve.

Yes, but that is because the successful ISPs currently often implement
their own if they have the resources and R&D power. The really big ones
have it automated, the small ones have it limited to be "activated by an
abuse desk person".

        Gadi.