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Re: Market for diversity (was: Re: Cogent latency / congestion)
From: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner () cluebyfour org>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:40:25 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
I don't think the target customer in this case is really in the market for properly physically diverse paths which provide partial 1:1. Thetarget customer seems to be looking for no-frills, cheap Internet.Customers in a market for properly physically diverse paths with partial 1:1 probably are already buying Internet from other ISPs.
I was thinking more for Cogent's backbone itself - I fully agree that customers who need uptime need to multi-home and do their path route homework. If a piece of fiber between two POPs on a given backbone fails and there isn't a redundant path (i.e. both sides of a 'redundant' ring ride through the same conduit or on different sides of the same railroad track) and/or the L2/L3 infrastructure isn't robust enough to tolerate such a failure without dropping customer traffic into the bit bucket, then that's definitely a design/operations problem. While customers can't directly influence those decisions, they can either 1) multi-home to different carriers, or 2) vote with their wallets and take their business elsewhere.
jms
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- Re: Does anyone multihome anymore? Dan Armstrong (Aug 22)
- Re: Does anyone multihome anymore? Steve Gibbard (Aug 22)
- Re: Does anyone multihome anymore? Mike Tancsa (Aug 22)
- Re: Market for diversity (was: Re: Cogent latency / congestion) Andy Davidson (Aug 25)
- Re: Market for diversity (was: Re: Cogent latency / congestion) Justin M. Streiner (Aug 25)
- Re: Market for diversity (was: Re: Cogent latency / congestion) Sean Donelan (Aug 25)
- Re: Market for diversity Jason LeBlanc (Aug 26)
- Re: Market for diversity Deepak Jain (Aug 26)
- Re: Market for diversity Bill Stewart (Aug 27)
- Re: Market for diversity (was: Re: Cogent latency / congestion) Justin M. Streiner (Aug 21)
- Re: Cogent latency / congestion Jeff Shultz (Aug 21)