Re: IP Block 99/8 (DHS insanity - offtopic)

["Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>]

On Apr 23, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Kradorex Xeron wrote:
> On Monday 23 April 2007 14:40, J. Oquendo wrote:
> > Marcus H. Sachs wrote:
> > > If we had "clean" registries and signed/verifiable advertisements  
> > > this
> > > would not be an issue.  Most of you know that DHS was pushing the  
> > > Secure
> > > Protocols for the Routing Infrastructure initiative
> > > (http://www.cyber.st.dhs.gov/spri.html).  Due to budget cuts this  
> > > program
> > > is on the shelf for now.  However, we are still interested in  
> > > making it
> > > happen.
> > >
> > > I think that the discussion about 7.0.0.0/24 several days ago  
> > > could also
> > > have been avoided if we had already implemented some of the SPRI  
> > > ideas.
> > >
> > > Marc
> >
> > Out of utter curiousness (not arrogance)... Why in the world  
> > should the
> > DHS be given control to the routing infrastructure when they can't  
> > even
> > secure their own networks.
>
> That is rediculous... The DHS should have no juristictional power  
> over an
> international and collective entity (The Internet), Why? Because  
> the USA does
> not own the internet, no country does. it's just as I posted in the  
> former:
> an international and collective entity.

I do not want any particular gov't (US or otherwise) to be "in  
charge" of the Internet any more than the next person.  And good  
thing too, because it simply cannot happen, political pipe-dreams not  
withstanding.

But what has that got to do with the DHS promoting an idea to sign IP  
space allocations and/or annoucements?  The idea in-and-of-itself  
doesn't sound wholly unreasonable.  (I am not advocating this, just  
saying the idea shouldn't be rejected without consideration simply  
because the DHS said it.)

Why not take the idea and see if it is useful, then implement it  
properly if there is any use?  All this vitriol over the US gov't  
trying to take over the Internet is silly - sillier than the USG  
thinking it can actually do so.  They're politicians, they're  
ignorant of reality and therefore can be excused for not  
understanding how stupid they sound.  All of you should know better.

--
TTFN,
patrick