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Re: comast email issues, who else has them?
From: "william(at)elan.net" <william () elan net>
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:29:14 -0700 (PDT)
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Tony Finch wrote:
On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, Fergie wrote:Ack: X-Originating-From should be mandatory.Far better to use a Received: header stating HTTP in the "with" protocol field. (And the IANA registry should be updated to include that as one of the standard values.)
That suggestion is likely to be contrary to SMTP design. Received trace fields are for use of recording of where data that was RFC2822 formatted came from and how. Use of these fields also assumes that start of email transmission took place somewhere else. The "with" clause in Received is used to indicate the "transport" protocol but assumes that data itself
is already properly formatted (compare to that the same type of L7 protocol can use either TCP or UDP; this is not perfect fit but gives you some idea).In case of web-based email services however, the start of the transmission is the webserver which is the one putting data in RFC2822 format and initiating the transmission. So use of "with HTTP" is inappropriate here -
the only case where "with HTTP" would be appropriate is when email clientlike Thunderbird creates entire email message as it normally would but instead of using SMTP or SUBMIT to send it, it is sending the data using HTTP PUT or SOAP or XML-RPC - this is not the case with web-based email.
If you really want to indicate the source of transmission for non-SMTP origination point, the best is to create new trace field for this purpose.With Received the closest clause would be "via" but I think via is largely for use with complete message being gatewayed through non-SMTP protocol and this is probably not the correct use of it either.
-- William Leibzon Elan Networks william () elan net
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- Re: comast email issues, who else has them?, (continued)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? Warren Kumari (Sep 07)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? S. Ryan (Sep 07)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? Christopher L. Morrow (Sep 07)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? Nick Burke (Sep 06)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? Bill Stewart (Sep 07)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? Fergie (Sep 01)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? Sean Donelan (Sep 06)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? Chris Adams (Sep 06)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? Robert Boyle (Sep 06)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? Tony Finch (Sep 11)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? william(at)elan.net (Sep 11)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? Tony Finch (Sep 11)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? william(at)elan.net (Sep 11)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Sep 11)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? william(at)elan.net (Sep 11)
- Re: comast email issues, who else has them? Sean Donelan (Sep 06)