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Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming
From: "william(at)elan.net" <william () elan net>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 22:40:05 -0700 (PDT)
On Thu, 25 May 2006, Sean Donelan wrote:
Regardless of the numbers, I think we are currently stuck in a very nasty spot 1. Reduce the cost of fixing/protecting a computer 2. or increase the losses from compromised computers Either way, the consumer will eventually end up paying for it.
Systems eventually get replaced (including home ones), so to keep upthe bot numbers new systems need to be able to be just as unsecure and infectable as old ones. If new systems were 100% protected the number of bots should in theory start to decrease in the same in the rate opposite or close to the rate of infection. That it does not happen
means that either: 1. New systems are still badly engineered as far as security or 2. The infections are not as much product of bad system security design as it is result of social engineering schemes that certain percent of users are vulnerable to -- William Leibzon Elan Networks william () elan net
Current thread:
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming, (continued)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Niels Bakker (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming David Ulevitch (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Gadi Evron (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Eric Whitehill (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Henry Linneweh (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Gadi Evron (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Valdis . Kletnieks (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Robert Boyle (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Gadi Evron (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Sean Donelan (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming william(at)elan.net (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Gadi Evron (May 26)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming leo vegoda (May 26)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming RLVaughn (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Florian Weimer (May 26)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Alexei Roudnev (May 27)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Alexei Roudnev (May 29)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Suresh Ramasubramanian (May 29)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Alexei Roudnev (May 30)