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Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming
From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 20:43:07 -0500 (CDT)
On Thu, 25 May 2006 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2006 10:17:56 CDT, Gadi Evron said:I'm just happy there are communities such as NANOG out there, but when it comes down to it, the Good online is based on good faith. The Bad is based on cold Cash. Some lose as much as a million dollars a day on phishing, as an example.Citation on the $1M/day, please? (I'm sure the *aggregate* take is well over that, but what *single entity* is seeing that magnitude losses?)
You can quote me. Phishing in the US is by far lkess sophisticated than, for example, in Europe. There the banks are a bit more sophisticated as well in defensive tech. I hate for this to be a quote by me, but Super Worms which steal credit card, account data, login info. etc. for banks, credit card companies and ecommerce sites online number at the millions a day. Including repeat customers. As to signle banks, forget my numbers for a second, I am willing to accept yours for the sake of argument (we can argue digits over the phone). A million in losses a day is enough. Gadi.
Current thread:
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming, (continued)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Florian Weimer (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Gadi Evron (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Niels Bakker (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming David Ulevitch (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Gadi Evron (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Eric Whitehill (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Henry Linneweh (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Gadi Evron (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Valdis . Kletnieks (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Robert Boyle (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Gadi Evron (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Sean Donelan (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming william(at)elan.net (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Gadi Evron (May 26)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming leo vegoda (May 26)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Gadi Evron (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Florian Weimer (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming RLVaughn (May 25)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Florian Weimer (May 26)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Alexei Roudnev (May 27)
- Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming Alexei Roudnev (May 29)