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Re: key change for TCP-MD5
From: Todd Underwood <todd-nanog () renesys com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:43:29 -0400
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:49:33AM -0700, Barry Greene (bgreene) wrote:
Yes Jared - our software does the TTL after the MD5, but the hardware implementations does the check in hardware before the packet gets punted to the receive path. That is exactly where you need to do the classification to minimize DOS on a router - as close to the point where the optical-electrical-airwaves convert to a IP packet as possible.
i'm not that bright, so maybe i'm missing something, but i've heard this claim from cisco people before and never understood it. just to clarify: you're saying that doing the (expensive) md5 check before the (almost free) ttl check makes sense because that *minimizes* the DOS vectors against a router? can someone walk me through the logic here using small words? i am obviously not able to follow this due to my distance from the "optical-electrical-airwaves". t. -- _____________________________________________________________________ todd underwood +1 603 643 9300 x101 renesys corporation chief of operations & security todd () renesys com http://www.renesys.com/blog/todd.shtml
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- RE: key change for TCP-MD5, (continued)
- RE: key change for TCP-MD5 Ross Callon (Jun 21)
- RE: key change for TCP-MD5 Randy Bush (Jun 21)
- Re: key change for TCP-MD5 Iljitsch van Beijnum (Jun 21)
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- Re: key change for TCP-MD5 Iljitsch van Beijnum (Jun 26)
- RE: key change for TCP-MD5 Ross Callon (Jun 21)
- RE: key change for TCP-MD5 Bora Akyol (Jun 21)
- RE: key change for TCP-MD5 Randy Bush (Jun 21)
- Re: key change for TCP-MD5 Richard A Steenbergen (Jun 21)
- backbone threats [Re: key change for TCP-MD5] Pekka Savola (Jun 26)
- RE: key change for TCP-MD5 Randy Bush (Jun 21)
- Re: key change for TCP-MD5 Todd Underwood (Jun 23)
- Re: key change for TCP-MD5 Richard A Steenbergen (Jun 23)
- Re: key change for TCP-MD5 Richard A Steenbergen (Jun 23)
- Re: key change for TCP-MD5 Iljitsch van Beijnum (Jun 23)
- Re: key change for TCP-MD5 Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 23)
- Re: key change for TCP-MD5 Iljitsch van Beijnum (Jun 24)
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