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Re: GoDaddy.com shuts down entire data center?


From: Martin Hannigan <hannigan () world std com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:44:24 -0500 (EST)





On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Matt Ghali wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Robert E.Seastrom wrote:

 The first and second paragraphs are sane.  The last paragraph gives Go
 Daddy the right to capriciously and arbitrarily delete your domain for
 any reason they wish ("Morally objectionable activities will include,
 but not be limited to...")

Do you believe that your philosophical objections to the language absolves 
you as a customer from the minimal due dilligence of knowing what you are 
agreeing to?


Find me a registrar that DOESN'T have that kind of language in their user 
agreements, then tell me if anyone wishing to do any kind of e-commerce 
has a choice.

There are plenty. But they are usually resellers of the larger 
registrars. That's part of the reason to pay the extra $1 to use 
an ICANN accredited registrar. 

I've gone off on a tear about this before: A registrar has a license to 
print money. Boilerplate user agreements that leave the user zero recourse 
are the standard. I haven't seen a registrar yet that doesn't have this 
kind of verbiage completely freeing them from liability for *any* action 
taken on a domain registration, including none.

Since this isn't a registrars list I can only say that you should go
discuss that with some registrars and i think you'll find that your
statement isn't entirely factual. For example, GoDaddy has a 24/7  
support system, regardless of what people think about it, that did
answer the phone and process the problem. That's a minimum of a ~half
a million dollar investment on the spot. I'm NOT a registrar and I
don't represent them, but I think they make their money on services
more than domains.

Anyhow, I think this thread is totally off topic at this point, 
as well as Marc Perkel is off topic, asking Marc Perkely what he
thinks is off topic, and this thread should die a horrific death.
It's on the way to a /dev/null forward as we speak.

-M<


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