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RE: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8
From: "David Schwartz" <davids () webmaster com>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 05:39:03 -0800
So we're saying that a lawsuit is an intelligent method to force someone else to correct something that you are simply using to avoid the irritation of manually updating things yourself??? That seems to be the epitomy of laziness vs. litigousness. Scott
No, but a lawsuit may be an intelligent method to force someone to correct something that other people are using to avoid the irritation of manually updating things themselves. I agree it would be idiotic if someone using the bogon list were to sue the list operator because they didn't like what was on the list and it was harming them. If all other methods fail to get the bogon list updated, which is easier: A) Track down everyone using the bogon list and convince them to switch to manually updating their own list of bogons so that they can reach you. B) Threaten the bogon list operator with a lawsuit for falsely claiming your addresses are bogons and hope they take the simplest path and fix their list. This is a pretty classic case of someone inducing other people to rely on the accuracy of their data and then offering incorrect data (not arguably incorrect, manifestly incorrect and most likely negligently so) which those other people then rely on. It's no different from a credit report with inaccurate information affecting a consumer who did not choose to have his credit tracked by the agency providing the information. We generally recognize third parties have a right to sue to correct negligently demonstrably incorrect information about them when that information harms them. This is not like lists of spam sources where the list is correctly reporting information the spammer would prefer to suppress. This is a case where the list is wrong, and it's harming other people who stupidly relied on it and people who never chose to rely on it. If you set up a service and induce people to use it and rely on it, there definitely should be some minimum standard of quality you should be held to. I think failing to update a bogon list to reflect address space that is no longer a bogon within a week or so is negligence under any standard of care. DS
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- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8, (continued)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Robert E. Seastrom (Dec 11)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Jared Mauch (Dec 11)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Stephen Satchell (Dec 11)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Jeroen Massar (Dec 11)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Florian Weimer (Dec 11)
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- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Jon Lewis (Dec 11)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Allan Houston (Dec 11)
- RE: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Donald Stahl (Dec 11)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Jack Bates (Dec 11)
- RE: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 David Schwartz (Dec 13)
- RE: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Michael . Dillon (Dec 13)
- RE: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 william(at)elan.net (Dec 13)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Jack Bates (Dec 13)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 David Conrad (Dec 14)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Roland Dobbins (Dec 14)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 bmanning (Dec 11)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 Chris L. Morrow (Dec 11)
- Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8 william(at)elan.net (Dec 11)