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Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless
From: Barry Shein <bzs () world std com>
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:02:20 -0400
On July 31, 2006 at 08:51 surfer () mauigateway com (Scott Weeks) wrote:
That's all fine and dandy until you consider the international base of these things. I'd like to see "...jackbooted [US is implied in the text] government thugs...kicking in a door somewhere and confiscating every
... This is a common fallacy which goes back to practically day 1 of The Spam Crisis (tm). I remember being invited to a meeting at the Massachussets state house probably around 1998 and being shouted down by this reasoning for a few minutes. Believe it or not spam is not the only internationalized problem on this planet. There's drug trade, actual high-seas piracy, slave trade, phone fraud, investment fraud, and on and on. So the usual snappy response is: And look how well we do with all that! Well, yes, you can make the best the enemy of the good. But there's a logical fallacy involved in trying to extrapolate that to "so therefore we should do nothing". Pressure can be put onto countries which are either spam-friendly or, more likely, spam agnostic (it's just not on their list of priorities.) Spam crime is of only limited value to those countries, one just has to find that value and the right buttons to push.
powered device and every living person in the building" in China, an African country, Russia, or <insert country of choice here>. These things span continents and countries and every time you cutoff the current head, it immediately spawns another and not always in a country that cares. scott
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Current thread:
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Barry Shein (Aug 01)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Paul Vixie (Aug 01)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Peter Dambier (Aug 01)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Scott Weeks (Aug 01)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Barry Shein (Aug 01)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Peter Dambier (Aug 01)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Joseph S D Yao (Aug 09)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Barry Shein (Aug 01)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Scott Weeks (Aug 01)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Paul Vixie (Aug 01)
- RE: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Jamie Bowden (Aug 02)
- RE: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Barry Shein (Aug 02)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Paul Vixie (Aug 01)