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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:41:07 -0400
On Oct 5, 2005, at 4:13 PM, Daniel Golding wrote:
They can. Cogent has transit and is preventing traffic from traversing its transit connection to reach Level(3). Level(3) does not have transit - they are in a condition of settlement free interconnection (SFI). The ball is in Cogent's court. This is not the first time or the second that they havechosen to partition.
Cogent does purchase transit from Verio to Sprint, AOL, and other locations (but not to Level 3). Perhaps Dan would like to explain why that is relevant to the discussion at hand? Or why that puts the "ball" in Cogent's court?
And no, L3's "SFI" status does not mean it's Cogent's fault.It is strange that people have to be reminded no network has the "right" to use any other network's resources without permission. Most people realize this in one direction. For instance, the "tier ones" love to point out Cogent has no "right" to peer with Level 3. Absolutely correct.
What some people seem to forget is that Level 3 has no right to force Cogent to buy transit to get to Level 3.
If Level 3 doesn't mind not being able to pass packets to Cogent, that's fine. If they do mind, they need to figure out a way to solve the problem - with Cogent. The inverse is true as well. As RAS said, it takes two to tango.
This problem will be solved "soon" (in human time - days, weeks at most). One of the networks may go out of business, but that "solves" the problem because there would no longer be locations on the Internet someone couldn't reach. I suspect it will be solved by less drastic means.
-- TTFN, patrickP.S. Does anyone else get that Baby Bell feeling whenever someone talks about being a "Tier One"?
Current thread:
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering, (continued)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Chris Stone (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Press Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering William Allen Simpson (Oct 06)
- Re: Press Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering JC Dill (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Golding (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering jmalcolm (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Randy Bush (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Dave Stewart (Oct 05)
- Cogent/Level 3 drama, why it's the best news of the day! Peter Kranz (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering David Barak (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Golding (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Jon Lewis (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Christopher Woodfield (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering David Sinn (Oct 05)