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Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:40:14 -0500
On Nov 11, 2005, at 9:33 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
Who said "big carriers" don't join IXes? There are plenty of networks who have more traffic than some "teir ones" at IXes. Hell, RANDY has a presence at least one IX.well, one of my routers does :-) and it moves almost 50kb/sec!
:-)
i have spent <long enough i don't want to count> years trying to get large isps to peer openly (originally pushed by asp). the costs of managing in the presence of bad behavior on public meshes is often used as a reason not to peer publicly.
Touché.No one is claiming that Bad Stuff does not happen. However, NAPs these days are stable, scalable, and useful. Picking your peers carefully - which is a requirement for public or private peering - helps.
We are just saying that "grown-ups" _DO_ use public IXes. (Plus people like me. :) And anyone who claims that IXes are bad places to trade traffic are ... not being very grown up.
-- TTFN, patrick
Current thread:
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses, (continued)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Randy Bush (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Joe Abley (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Randy Bush (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Robert Kiessling (Nov 09)
- RE: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Chris Roberts (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Randy Bush (Nov 11)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Will Hargrave (Nov 11)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 11)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Randy Bush (Nov 11)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 11)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Randy Bush (Nov 11)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Randy Bush (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Mike Hughes (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Steven Bakker (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Lincoln Dale (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses sthaug (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Randy Bush (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Mike Hughes (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Niels Bakker (Nov 11)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Alexander Koch (Nov 09)
- Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses Mike Hughes (Nov 09)