Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now

["Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve () telecomplete co uk>]

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Brandon Ross wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, John Payne wrote:
>
> > What am I missing?
>
> That it's a pure power play.  

market position is important

> Peering is only distantly associated with costs or responsibilities.  

no, peering is entirely associated with costs or responsibilities.. what other 
reason is there to peer ?

> It has to do with what company has the intestinal fortitude to draw a line in
> the sand and stick with it no matter how many customers cancel their service.  

have to weigh up the gains and losses to see if that is a good or bad thing tho. 

> Those with a critical mass of traffic and the right amount of guts win.  

markets are always stacked in favour of the larger players in that way.. saying 
'hey i'm a little guy, give me chance' generally goes unheard

> Everyone else loses the peering game.

not peering isnt necessarily losing, there are networks who would peer with me 
if i turned up in asia or the west coast, but my cost to get there is greater 
than sticking to transit. 

to get a new peer, both sides need to feel they are gaining value

Steve