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Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance


From: Daniel Golding <dgolding () burtongroup com>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:35:56 -0500



On the attack, are we? Its a free market. If folks don't like what
unregulated, non-monopoly ISPs are doing, they can go elsewhere.

I dislike the moralizing. This is business, not a battle of good vs evil.

- Dan

On 3/30/05 7:51 PM, "Eric A. Hall" <ehall () ehsco com> wrote:



On 3/30/2005 11:27 AM, Greg Boehnlein wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:

Intersting article on ISP issues regarding competitive
VoIP services:

http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?site=lightreading&doc_id=71020

Hmm.. I was quoted in it.

Oh good, maybe you can clarify some things:

| ³As much as I want to see VOIP survive and thrive, I also don't want
| to bear the additional cost of my customers choosing to use a
| competitor's VOIP service over my own,² says Greg Boehnlein, who
| operates Cleveland, Ohio-based ISP N2Net.
|
| ³Without control of the last mile, we're screwed,² Boehnlein says,
| ³which is why I can identify with Clearwire's decision and say
| Œmore power to them¹.²

Do you also block NNTP so that customers have to use your servers?

And if some other service used higher cumulative bandwidth than VoIP (say,
Apple's music service) and didn't ~reimburse you for the use of your
network, would|do you block that service too? For that matter, do you
block the various P2P systems that don't make money but that generate
massive traffic?

What don't you plan on blocking exactly?




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