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Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance
From: Daniel Golding <dgolding () burtongroup com>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:35:56 -0500
On the attack, are we? Its a free market. If folks don't like what unregulated, non-monopoly ISPs are doing, they can go elsewhere. I dislike the moralizing. This is business, not a battle of good vs evil. - Dan On 3/30/05 7:51 PM, "Eric A. Hall" <ehall () ehsco com> wrote:
On 3/30/2005 11:27 AM, Greg Boehnlein wrote:On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:Intersting article on ISP issues regarding competitive VoIP services: http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?site=lightreading&doc_id=71020Hmm.. I was quoted in it.Oh good, maybe you can clarify some things: | ³As much as I want to see VOIP survive and thrive, I also don't want | to bear the additional cost of my customers choosing to use a | competitor's VOIP service over my own,² says Greg Boehnlein, who | operates Cleveland, Ohio-based ISP N2Net. | | ³Without control of the last mile, we're screwed,² Boehnlein says, | ³which is why I can identify with Clearwire's decision and say | more power to them¹.² Do you also block NNTP so that customers have to use your servers? And if some other service used higher cumulative bandwidth than VoIP (say, Apple's music service) and didn't ~reimburse you for the use of your network, would|do you block that service too? For that matter, do you block the various P2P systems that don't make money but that generate massive traffic? What don't you plan on blocking exactly?
Current thread:
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance, (continued)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Bill Nash (Mar 30)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Alexei Roudnev (Mar 30)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Jamie Norwood (Mar 30)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Steve Gibbard (Mar 30)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Mark Andrews (Mar 31)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Owen DeLong (Mar 31)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Chris Adams (Mar 31)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Owen DeLong (Mar 31)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Owen DeLong (Mar 30)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Eric A. Hall (Mar 31)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Daniel Golding (Mar 31)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Adrian Chadd (Mar 30)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Greg Boehnlein (Mar 30)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Adrian Chadd (Mar 30)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Bill Nash (Mar 31)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Greg Boehnlein (Mar 31)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Joe Abley (Mar 31)
- Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance Randy Bush (Mar 31)