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Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance


From: Greg Boehnlein <damin () nacs net>
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:41:38 -0500 (EST)


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Brad Knowles wrote:

At 5:06 PM -0800 2005-03-30, Bill Nash wrote:

 I find this to be entertaining, since as a VOIP consumer, I'm
 reimbursing my ISP for the cost of the traffic as part of my monthly
 tithe.

      No, that's not true.  Not if your ISP has oversold their upstream 
bandwidth, and a lot of people start using VOIP.

      In that case, your ISP is dependant on keeping you fat, dumb, 
happy, barefoot, and pregnant in the kitchen, taking whatever 
semidigested pabulum they choose to feed you, and if you start 
getting uppity by actually thinking for yourself and using something 
like VOIP, then they're going to have to bitch-slap you back into 
your rightful place under their thumb.

That is fairly entertaining. Perhaps you could provide the financial 
breakdown for ANY DSL business model that doesn't rely on 
over-subscription?

Q. How many, full-on 6 Meg DSL subscribers can you put on a 45 meg ATM 
connection without oversubscription? ;)

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