nanog mailing list archives
Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?
From: "william(at)elan.net" <william () elan net>
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:32:25 -0700 (PDT)
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Daniel Golding wrote:
Reputation is a missing element in all sender authentications schemes and will (likely) be solved separately. No approach is perfect, but building closer to a solution is preferred over sitting on our hands and debating, which (historically) seems to be the IETF's approach.
You miss the point. Reputation is already widely being used today - every blocklist is a reputation system and we have lots of those for mail server
reputation and for network reputation and for domain names there is SURBLAll those are of course "bad reputation" lists and John wants to see good reputation lists, but it can only happen once authorization is used, but initial technologies are there. For when something more complex is needed there is in fact siq being developed at ASRG
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-asrg-iar-howe-siq-01.txt so what is really needed are people willing to come to asrg and work with authors on R&D (with emphasis on "d" part) and if it does not work well than ASRG will look at something else. -- William Leibzon Elan Networks william () elan net
Current thread:
- Re: Email peering, (continued)
- Re: Email peering Rich Kulawiec (Jun 21)
- Re: Email peering Petri Helenius (Jun 21)
- Re: Email peering (Was: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender IDAuthentication......?] Petri Helenius (Jun 18)
- Re: Email peering (Was: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender IDAuthentication......?] Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jun 16)
- Re: Economics of spam Niels Bakker (Jun 13)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Todd Vierling (Jun 13)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 13)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Matt Ghali (Jun 10)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? J.D. Falk (Jun 09)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Daniel Golding (Jun 08)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? william(at)elan.net (Jun 08)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? william(at)elan.net (Jun 08)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Steven M. Bellovin (Jun 08)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Eric A. Hall (Jun 08)
- Paper on Email Authentication (Authorization really) (was - Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?) william(at)elan.net (Jun 13)
- Re: Paper on Email Authentication (Authorization really) (was - Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?) J.D. Falk (Jun 13)
- Re: Paper on Email Authentication (Authorization really) (was - Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?) william(at)elan.net (Jun 13)
- Re: Paper on Email Authentication (Authorization really) (was - Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?) J.D. Falk (Jun 13)