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Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity
From: Todd Vierling <tv () duh org>
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:55:38 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005, Douglas Otis wrote:
BATV will make forged DSNs a thing of the past, irrespective of where a recipient list is checked, an AV or SPAM filter is added, etc.
Stop plugging a recipient-side cost-shift scheme that you're directly involved with as some sort of panacea. BATV has benefits, as do other schemes, but you're still fixated on it as being the end-all, be-all of forgery prevention -- by making third parties do the dirty work and letting the instigators off the hook. By putting the costs on the shoulders of third parties, you're putting yourself squarely on the side of the spewing hosts, and being as ignorant as the admins running the anti-malware products on those hosts. For shame. Until you get the point that you're putting the burden on people that have nothing to do with the problem that started this long thread (anti-malware notices to forged senders), and your first priority should be stopping that spew at the source BEFORE asking uninvolved third parties to help, you're going to continue to look like the self-absorbed crack smoker you've made yourself out to be. -- -- Todd Vierling <tv () duh org> <tv () pobox com> <todd () vierling name>
Current thread:
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ), (continued)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) JC Dill (Dec 09)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) Douglas Otis (Dec 09)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) Steven J. Sobol (Dec 09)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) Todd Vierling (Dec 09)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) JC Dill (Dec 09)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) JP Velders (Dec 10)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) Douglas Otis (Dec 10)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) Jon Lewis (Dec 10)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity Andrew - Supernews (Dec 10)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity Douglas Otis (Dec 10)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity Todd Vierling (Dec 10)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity Andrew - Supernews (Dec 11)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity Micheal Patterson (Dec 11)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity Suresh Ramasubramanian (Dec 11)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity Rich Kulawiec (Dec 11)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity Matt Sergeant (Dec 12)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) mary (Dec 10)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) Steve Sobol (Dec 10)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) mary (Dec 10)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) Edward B. Dreger (Dec 10)
- Re: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless anti-virus ) Todd Vierling (Dec 10)