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Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:47:51 -0700
I have no problem with disconnecting known abusers. However, there's lots of other actions implied in the "ISP responsibility" described that are things like filtering port 25, blocking NetBIOS, etc. Some ISPs do this. I'm all for having an AUP and/or TOS that allows you to disconnect abusers. When I was working for various ISPs, I personally disconnected a number of such abusers. However, IMHO, disconnecting abusers is a far cry from "Providing a clean internet". Owen --On Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:26 PM +0000 "Fergie (Paul Ferguson)" <fergdawg () netzero net> wrote:
None -- when you disconnect [correct, block, whatever] abusive end-systems in your administrative domain. Act locally, think globally. In fact, an ISP in AUS just did this last week... - ferg Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote: How much functionality are we going to destroy before we realize that you can't fix end-node problems in the transit network? -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
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- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Petri Helenius (Apr 27)
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- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Fergie (Paul Ferguson) (Apr 26)
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- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Joe Shen (Apr 26)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Fergie (Paul Ferguson) (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Fergie (Paul Ferguson) (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Owen DeLong (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Fergie (Paul Ferguson) (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Sam Hayes Merritt, III (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Greg Boehnlein (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Fergie (Paul Ferguson) (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Petri Helenius (Apr 27)
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- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Fergie (Paul Ferguson) (Apr 27)
- RE: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Olsen, Jason (Apr 28)
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