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Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:47:51 -0700

I have no problem with disconnecting known abusers.  However, there's
lots of other actions implied in the "ISP responsibility" described
that are things like filtering port 25, blocking NetBIOS, etc.
Some ISPs do this.

I'm all for having an AUP and/or TOS that allows you to disconnect
abusers.  When I was working for various ISPs, I personally disconnected
a number of such abusers.

However, IMHO, disconnecting abusers is a far cry from "Providing a
clean internet".

Owen


--On Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:26 PM +0000 "Fergie (Paul Ferguson)"
<fergdawg () netzero net> wrote:


None -- when you disconnect [correct, block, whatever]
abusive end-systems in your administrative domain. Act
locally, think globally.

In fact, an ISP in AUS just did this last week...

- ferg


Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:

How much functionality are we going to destroy before we realize that
you can't fix end-node problems in the transit network?

--
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net
 ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/




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