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Re: RIPE "Golden Networks" Document ID - 229/210/178


From: Bill Manning <bmanning () karoshi com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 04:06:12 +1200


well....

RIPE is the RIR for Europe. RIPE-229 is, from my viewpoint, arbitrary and capricious. the root servers are -ONE- set of interesting servers. what about the web sites that point to these "important" documents? or the time servers, or my NOC & monitoring machines?

The idea of an Internet Registry stepping into giving routing advice is a leap of faith. An RIR can tell you what was delegated - but presuming to give advice on what is important
for everyone that uses IP protocols is over the top.

so no, i don't use this document as a guideline for "golden networks". the advice on
dampening is important tho and it worthwhile.


On Sep 3, 2004, at 3:44, Rodney Joffe wrote:


Hello folks,

This is actually NANOG applicable, despite referring to RIPE... ;-)

How many of you who manage BGP speaking networks implement the RIPE "best practices" regarding dampening parameters for so-called "golden networks"?

See: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/routeflap-damping.html
and
http://www.qorbit.net/documents/golden-networks (thanks, Steve!)

If you do, what parameters do you use, or do you not dampen the "golden networks" at all?

If you don't implement ripe-229, why not?

If there is enough interest/response (i.e if anyone besides me feels this is a real operational issue currently and wants to deal with it), I'll work on compiling the responses and producing a report.

Note: A *significant* number of networks appear to *not* follow ripe-229 guidelines at all.

Thanks,

Rodney Joffe
CenterGate Research Group, LLC
http://www.centergate.com
"Technology so advanced, even WE don't understand it"(R)



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