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Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:35:50 -0800
It appears Iljitsch would have been correct to say "there is no _new_ PI in IPv6 unless you're an internet exchange or a root server." As long as this remains true, there are nearly a dozen identified reasons why people would want/need ULAs, which was the original point of this subthread.
The point of the thread, in my opinion, is that changing the RIR policy to support the needs met by ULA makes more sense than creating a separateregistry system and defining multiple address classes which are theoretically
routable and unroutable. Especially when we consider that the definition of unroutable is very fuzzy at best.
The RIRs, of course, are free to make IPv6 PI space available, and most of the justification for ULAs would disappear if that were to occur. However, there is no indication that this is coming, so absent any other ways to meet those needs, ULAs have a purpose.
Yes... Undermining the policy process of the RIRs. Other than that, they have no purpose.
speaking as someone who's had too much coffee today, it seems possible that the preponderance of arin's membership could prefer a pure transit world to a mixed transit/IXP world.I'm not holding my breath waiting for ARIN's members -- largely ISPs -- to approve end sites getting IPv6 PI space, something that would make multihoming more likely, reduce customer lock-in, and increase routing table sizes; it's contrary to their collective interests.
ARINs members do _NOT_ approve policy. The BOT approves policy. The BOT only approves policy after it is recommended by the AC. The AC is not made up of ARIN members, and, is not elected by ARIN members. They are electedby the ARIN community at large. Basically, ANYONE can vote. The AC recommends
policy to the BOT based on consensus and discussion on the PPML and at theARIN Public Policy meetings (twice a year). While it is true that a majority of the people who show up are ISPs, there is no price of admission for joining
and participating in the PPML, and, the registration fee for the meetings is quite nominal.Decisions are made by those who participate. If you want input into the ARIN policies, then, participate in the policy process. If you thing it's someone
elses job to make ARIN policy, then, accept the job they are doing, or, contribute. Owen (Who is not an ARIN member, but, has been quite active in ARIN policy for the last 2 years). -- If this message was not signed with gpg key 0FE2AA3D, it's probably a forgery.
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- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Jeroen Massar (Nov 15)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Christian Kuhtz (Nov 15)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Mike Leber (Nov 18)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Christian Kuhtz (Nov 18)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 18)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Jeroen Massar (Nov 18)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 18)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Paul Vixie (Nov 18)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Christian Kuhtz (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Stephen Sprunk (Nov 18)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Owen DeLong (Nov 18)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Stephen Sprunk (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Owen DeLong (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Adi Linden (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Stephen Sprunk (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Owen DeLong (Nov 19)
- ULA and RIR cost-recovery John Curran (Nov 22)
- RE: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Tony Hain (Nov 23)
- RE: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 23)
- RE: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Tony Hain (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Steven M. Bellovin (Nov 24)