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RE: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications


From: Scott McGrath <mcgrath () fas harvard edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:39:58 -0400 (EDT)



I also believe that critical infrastructure needs to be protected and I am
charged with protecting a good chunk of it.   Also as a Ham operator I
work in concert with the various emergency management organizations in
dealing with possible worst case scenarios.

No, not everyone who asks about some piece of infrastructure under my
control gets an answer but for now we can still choose who receives an
answer without you having to contact a govt agency and ask whether I can
respond to a query from Joe Shmoe.

Unfortunately information=power and control of information is power^2 and
many people in the permanent bureaucracy are there only in pursuit of
power over others and 9/11 was a wonderful excuse to extend their scope
of control over people's everyday lives.

Right now in Boston cameras are now illegal in the subway for 'security
reasons' who hasnt had a picture taken with their friends on the way
to/from a gathering on the subway.

Back when I was younger the only places with restrictions like that were
the countries Iron Curtain.  In the 50's my family helped resettle
refugees from Hungary in the aftermath of the failed Hungarian Revolution
freedom is a valuable thing unfortunately we are losing it bit by bit.


                            Scott C. McGrath

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Harris, Michael C. wrote:

      Scott McGrath said:
      See

      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/24/network_outages/

      for the gory details.  The Sean Gorman debacle was just the
beginning this country
      is becoming more like the Soviet Union under Stalin every
passing day in its xenophobic
      paranoia all we need now is a new version of the NKVD to enforce
the homeland security directives.

                            Scott C. McGrath
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Ask and you shall receive! Fresh from the DHS website yesterday morning.

(quoting the end of the 4th paragraph below)

"In addition, HSIN-CI network, in partnership with the FBI, provides a
reporting feature that allows the public to submit information about
suspicious activities through the FBI Tips Program that is then shared
with the Department's HSOC."

Just call the party hotline and report your neighbors, coworkers and
friends...

Don't get me wrong, I am a supporter of protecting critical
infrastructure. There are already programs, Infragard is an example,
that perform the same kind of information sharing by choice rather than
decree.  Infragard is supported by public private and sectors both, with
similar support from the FBI.

(yes, I am an Infragard member just to be 100% above board)
Mike Harris
Umh.edu

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http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?content=3748

Homeland Security Launches Critical Infrastructure Pilot Program to
Bolster Private Sector Security
- Dallas First of Four Pilot Communities Sharing Targeted Threat
Information

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
Contact: 202-282-8010
June 23, 2004

Homeland Security Information Network - Critical Infrastructure

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security in partnership with local
private sector and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, today launched
the first Homeland Security Information Network-Critical Infrastructure
(HSIN-CI) Pilot Program in Dallas, Texas with locally operated pilot
programs in Seattle, Indianapolis and Atlanta to follow.  The pilot
program will operate throughout the course of this year to determine the
feasibility of using this model for other cities across the country.

The HSIN-CI pilot program, modeled after the FBI Dallas Emergency
Response Network expands the reach of the Department's Homeland Security
Information Network (HSIN) initiative--a counterterrorism communications
tool that connects 50 states, five territories, Washington, D.C., and 50
major urban areas to strengthen the exchange of threat information--to
critical infrastructure owners and operators in a variety of industries
and locations, first responders and local officials.  As part of the
HSIN-CI pilot program, more than 25,000 members of the network will have
access to unclassified sector specific information and alert
notifications on a 24/7 basis.

"The Homeland is more secure when each hometown is more secure," said
Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge. "HSIN-CI connects our
communities - the government community to the private sector community
to the law enforcement community -- the better we share information
between our partners, the more quickly we are able to implement security
measures where necessary."

The HSIN-CI network allows local and regional areas to receive targeted
alerts and notifications in real-time from Department's Homeland
Security Operations Center (HSOC) using standard communication devices
including wired and wireless telephones, email, facsimile and text
pagers.  The network requires no additional hardware or software for
federal, state, or local participants.  The technical capacity of the
network includes the ability to send 10,000 outbound  voice calls per
minute, 30,000 simultaneous inbound calls through an information
"hotline," 5,000 simultaneous email messages and 3,000 simultaneous
facsimile transmissions in the event that information needs to be
communicated.  In addition, HSIN-CI network, in partnership with the
FBI, provides a reporting feature that allows the public to submit
information about suspicious activities through the FBI Tips Program
that is then shared with the Department's HSOC.

"We believe that the use of this program builds relationships that are
critical in providing a more secure environment for local communities
and the nation," said Zalami Azmi, Chief Information Officer, Federal
Bureau of Investigation.  "This program expands the Department's efforts
to share information and build relationships that will be crucial in the
event of an emergency that is either a terrorist threat, man-made or
natural disaster."

Homeland Security Information Network-Critical Infrastructure is
governed and administered by local experts from the private and public
sector with the support of Regional Coordinators.  The four pilot
communities have also established Infrastructure Advisory Panels to
assist in the administration and overall governance of the program
locally; manage counter-terrorism and public safety information sharing;
and to review and validate HSIN-CI applications.  The pilot program
allows local users to provide a unique perspective on the areas
vulnerabilities, activities and response plans along with the locally
known representatives from Agencies involved in incident management and
response.  The HSIN-CI Pilot Program is part ongoing efforts by the
Department of Homeland Security and our federal partners to improve
information sharing and collaboration among all of those involved in
strengthening homeland security.

For more information about the HSIN-CI pilot program visit
www.swern.gov.





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