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RE: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications


From: "Larry Pingree" <lpingree () juniper net>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:23:18 -0700


        I agree, there are much more important things to protect than
this information. It would be almost impossible to manage, and even more
unlikely to ever have a positive effect. Besides, if someone with ill
intentions has the abilities to act so quickly on such short notice,
then we have much greater failures of our intelligence system that would
need to be addressed.

LP
 
Best Regards,
 
Larry
 
Larry Pingree

"Visionary people, are visionary, partly because of the great many
things they never get to see." - Larry Pingree

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf Of
Scott McGrath
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:06 AM
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: RE: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage
notifications



I did read the article and having worked for gov't agencies twice in my
career a proposal like the one floated by DHS is just the camel's nose.

I should hope the carriers oppose this.

Now a call comes into our ops center "I cant reach my experiment at
Stanford".  Ops looks up the outages Oh yeah there's a fiber cut
affecting
service we will let you know when it's fixed.   They check it's fixed
they
call the customer telling them to try it now.

Under the proposed regime "We know its dead do not know why or when it
will be fixed because it' classified information"  This makes for
absolutely wonderful customer service and it protects public safety
how?.



                            Scott C. McGrath

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Tad Grosvenor wrote:

Did you read the article?  The DHS is urging that the FCC drop the
proposal
to require outage reporting for "significant outages."   This isn't
the DHS
saying that outage notifications should be muted.  The article also
mentions: "Telecom companies are generally against the proposed new
reporting requirements, arguing that the industry's voluntary efforts
are
sufficient."

-Tad



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf
Of
Scott McGrath
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:58 PM
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications



See

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/24/network_outages/

for the gory details.  The Sean Gorman debacle was just the beginning
this country is becoming more like the Soviet Union under Stalin every
passing day in its xenophobic paranoia all we need now is a new
version of
the NKVD to enforce the homeland security directives.

                            Scott C. McGrath




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