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RE: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications
From: "Larry Pingree" <lpingree () juniper net>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:23:18 -0700
I agree, there are much more important things to protect than this information. It would be almost impossible to manage, and even more unlikely to ever have a positive effect. Besides, if someone with ill intentions has the abilities to act so quickly on such short notice, then we have much greater failures of our intelligence system that would need to be addressed. LP Best Regards, Larry Larry Pingree "Visionary people, are visionary, partly because of the great many things they never get to see." - Larry Pingree -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf Of Scott McGrath Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:06 AM To: nanog () merit edu Subject: RE: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications I did read the article and having worked for gov't agencies twice in my career a proposal like the one floated by DHS is just the camel's nose. I should hope the carriers oppose this. Now a call comes into our ops center "I cant reach my experiment at Stanford". Ops looks up the outages Oh yeah there's a fiber cut affecting service we will let you know when it's fixed. They check it's fixed they call the customer telling them to try it now. Under the proposed regime "We know its dead do not know why or when it will be fixed because it' classified information" This makes for absolutely wonderful customer service and it protects public safety how?. Scott C. McGrath On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Tad Grosvenor wrote:
Did you read the article? The DHS is urging that the FCC drop the
proposal
to require outage reporting for "significant outages." This isn't
the DHS
saying that outage notifications should be muted. The article also mentions: "Telecom companies are generally against the proposed new reporting requirements, arguing that the industry's voluntary efforts
are
sufficient." -Tad -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf
Of
Scott McGrath Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:58 PM To: nanog () merit edu Subject: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/24/network_outages/ for the gory details. The Sean Gorman debacle was just the beginning this country is becoming more like the Soviet Union under Stalin every passing day in its xenophobic paranoia all we need now is a new
version of
the NKVD to enforce the homeland security directives. Scott C. McGrath
Current thread:
- Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications Scott McGrath (Jun 24)
- Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications Eric A. Hall (Jun 24)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications Scott McGrath (Jun 24)
- Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications Jeff Shultz (Jun 24)
- Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 24)
- Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications Eric A. Hall (Jun 24)
- Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications Adam 'Starblazer' Romberg (Jun 24)
- Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications Henry Linneweh (Jun 24)
- Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications Jeff Shultz (Jun 24)