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RE: Can a customer take IP's with them?
From: "John Neiberger" <John.Neiberger () efirstbank com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:48:14 -0600
Let me try to give you a hypothetical to show you why ARIN is
irrelevent.
Suppose I am a member of the Longshoreman's assocation and you have a contract to buy shrimp for $8/pound provided you only resell it to
members
of the LA. You then enter into a contract with me to sell me shrimp
for
$10/pound. But then I leave the LA. Ooops, now you can no longer
resell me
the shrimp. So you break our contract and I sue you. Does your
contract with
your shrimp provider matter? If you continue to sell me shrimp even
though
I'm not in the LA, who does your shrimp supplier sue? You or me?
Is this analogy really accurate? In your analogy, the person who initially purchases the shrimp actually *owns* the shrimp at that point. With IP address space, the ISP does not own the space that it allocates. It's really just sub-letting the space already allocated to it. IANAL, but it appears that from a contractual perspective it is clear that ARIN retains all 'ownership' rights to the address space. They subdivide it to those who are willing to contractually agree to their conditions, but the ownership is never transferred. I would think that that is an important distinction to make. Perhaps not. John --
Current thread:
- Re: Can a customer take IP's with them?, (continued)
- Re: Can a customer take IP's with them? Edward B. Dreger (Jun 29)
- Re: Can a customer take IP's with them? Jon Lewis (Jun 29)
- Re: Can a customer take IP's with them? Edward B. Dreger (Jun 29)
- Re: Can a customer take IP's with them? william(at)elan.net (Jun 29)
- RE: Can a customer take IP's with them? Ray Plzak (Jun 29)
- Re: Can a customer take IP's with them? Patrick W Gilmore (Jun 29)
- Re: Can a customer take IP's with them? Patrick W Gilmore (Jun 23)
- RE: Can a customer take IP's with them? Andy Dills (Jun 23)
- RE: Can a customer take IP's with them? David Schwartz (Jun 23)
- Re: Can a customer take IP's with them? Richard Cox (Jun 23)
- Re: Can a customer take IP's with them? Richard Welty (Jun 23)
- RE: Can a customer take IP's with them? David Schwartz (Jun 23)
- Re: Can a customer take IP's with them? Richard Welty (Jun 23)
- RE: Can a customer take IP's with them? David Schwartz (Jun 23)
- Re: Can a customer take IP's with them? Richard Welty (Jun 23)
- RE: Can a customer take IP's with them? David Schwartz (Jun 23)
- Re: Can a customer take IP's with them? Jeroen Massar (Jun 24)