nanog mailing list archives

Re: Verisign vs. ICANN


From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve () telecomplete co uk>
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:18:28 +0100 (BST)


Hi Alexei,
 I do not believe there is any technical spec prohibiting this, in fact that DNS 
can use a wildcard at any level is what enables the facility. I think this is a 
non-technical argument.. altho it was demonstrated that owing to the age and 
status of the com/net zones a number of systems are now in operation which make 
assumptions about the response in the event of the domain not existing...

Steve

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Alexei Roudnev wrote:


(read it only today, so sorry if I repeat something).

The technical roots of the problem are: proposed services VIOLATES internet
specification (which is 100% clean - if name do not exist, resolver must
receive negative response). So, technically, there is not any ground for
SiteFinder - vice versa,
now you can add client-level search SiteFinder (MS did it, and it took LOONG
to turn off their dumb 'search' redirect) so allowing
competition between ISP, browsers and so on.

Anyway, please - those who knows history and can read this 'official'
English (little bored) - I am sure, that we can find many inconsistencies in
the filing; it may be reasonable to provide a set of independent _technical_
reviews, showing that ICANN plays a role of technical authority, just do not
allowing to violate a protocols. For the second case (waiting lists), it is
not technical issue, but it is anti-competitional attempt from Verisign as
well. I can ask my Russian folks to review it as well (dr. Platonov, Dimitry
Burkov) but I am not sure, if it is of any use... Anyway, good review,
explaining history and revealing real ICANN role, should be done.

If VeriSign wish to deploy services - they must put thru new RFC first.

PS. I am excited - Vixie as a co-conspirator... Vixie, you can be proud -:).

Alexei Roudnev





PV> Date: 18 Jun 2004 05:58:00 +0000
PV> From: Paul Vixie

PV>         Paul Vixie is an existing provider of competitive services for
PV>         registry operations, including providing TLD domain name
hosting
PV>         services for ccTLDs and gTLDs, and a competitor of VeriSign
for
PV>         new registry operations.  [...]

I'm missing something.  By what stretch of whose imagination does
root nameserver operations compete with a registrar?


Eddy
--
EverQuick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/
A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/
Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building
Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national
Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita
_________________________________________________________________
DO NOT send mail to the following addresses:
davidc () brics com -*- jfconmaapaq () intc net -*- sam () everquick net
Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked.






Current thread: