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Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 08:35:54 -0800
--On Wednesday, January 7, 2004 5:43 PM -0800 "Martin J. Levy" <mahtin () mahtin com> wrote:
There should be no end-user impact resulting from these changes ...I believe there have been 26 (opps, now 27) responses to this announcement in the last 2 hours 45 minutes, that's about one response every 6 minutes. Hence there seems to be at least some impact on the community and that's before these changes are even implemented. :-) Martin
I never expected to find myself defending Verisign, but, in this case, I have to point out the following: 1. Most of the flap has been people demonstrating that they don't understand the effect of the change. On a technical level, all that _SHOULD_ care about the zone serial number is the slave servers that are authoritative for the zone. 2. Some of the flap has been from people that can't read and seemed to think that the change was for Jan 9 instead of Feb. 9. 3. Some of the flap was from people who thought that the serial number going backwards was a serious operational issue. 4. Some of the response to 3 was from people who didn't realize that the serial number really was going to go backwards. 5. Eventually, the fact that this didn't matter was pointed out by some.I don't see any real reason for Verisign to do this, other than possibly some
lazy coding in automation tools (that SN is slightly easier to use as atimestamp in automation than one that is the encoded date). It doesn't provide
the functionality they are striving for. However, I don't see any meaningful reason for them not to do this either. Having said that, I think that, for once, they actually did provide reasonable notification of the change, and, were extra helpful showing the simple perl conversion from new-format serial number to timestamp. I think we should be praising them for this, accepting that it is a minor change, and appreciating the actual advance notice. I think we should make it clear that we as a community are not a band of engineers opposed to changes for the sake of opposing change and keep it clear that there were real operational impact reasons to oppose the wildcard records. This change isn't worth opposing, and, at least they gave us reasonable notice on it. We should move on. Just my $0.02, but, I think we should declare this horse dead. Owen -- If it wasn't crypto-signed, it probably didn't come from me.
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- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones, (continued)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Joe Abley (Jan 07)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Stephane Bortzmeyer (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Avleen Vig (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Stephane Bortzmeyer (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones David Lesher (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Stephane Bortzmeyer (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Joe Abley (Jan 07)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Martin J. Levy (Jan 07)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Chris Yarnell (Jan 07)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Stephane Bortzmeyer (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Rob Pickering (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Gerald (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Owen DeLong (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change bill (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change Robert E. Seastrom (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change Matt Larson (Jan 09)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Joe Abley (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Stephen J. Wilcox (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Mans Nilsson (Jan 08)
- Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones Stephen J. Wilcox (Jan 07)