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Re: Packet anonymity is the problem?
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 10:32:33 +0200
On 11-apr-04, at 4:48, Sean Donelan wrote:
"Because of the way TCP/IP works, it's an open network," Keromytis said. "Other network technologies don't have that problem. They have other issues, but only IP is subject to this difficulty with abuse."
I don't think so. Non-IP networks such as the phone network, the (snail) mail network and the pizza delivery network are also subject to abuse. The difference is there are much fewer convenient multipliers around that give an attacker an asymmetric advantage.
Bellovin compared the situation to bank robberies. "[S]treets, highways and getaway cars don't cause bank robberies, nor will redesigning them solve the problem. The flaws are in the banks," he said. Similarly, most security problems are due to buggy code, and changing the network willnot affect that.
Ok, then explain to me how removing bugs from the code I run prevents me from being the victim of denial of service attacks.
Current thread:
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem?, (continued)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Todd Vierling (Apr 10)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Dan Hollis (Apr 10)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Paul Vixie (Apr 10)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Joe Provo (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Petri Helenius (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Joe Maimon (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Jeff Workman (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Joe Maimon (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Jeff Workman (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Todd Vierling (Apr 10)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Yann Berthier (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Yann Berthier (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Owen DeLong (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Henry Linneweh (Apr 11)
- Delayed mail [WAS: Packet anonymity is the problem?] Patrick W . Gilmore (Apr 14)