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Re: Lazy network operators
From: Jeff Workman <jworkman () pimpworks org>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:45:20 -0400
--On Saturday, April 10, 2004 8:30 PM -0700 Dan Hollis <goemon () anime net> wrote:
exodus for example had a hands off policy, dont do a single thing until law enforcement arrives with a search warrant.
While this might be a PITA for everybody, I don't see why everybody wants to chastise NSPs for this practice, especially NSPs that are/were telcos. Isn't this more or less the way telcos have dealt with abuse issues for decades?
I used to work for a very small (~10k dialup customer) ISP, and at the time our abuse policy was "if somebody complains, and you can find *something* in the logs, then lock the account." Then I went to work for a so-called "Tier-1" and learned in short order that this policy does not scale, especially when abusive customers with DS3s are waving around fully loaded lawyers.
-J -- Jeff Workman | jworkman () pimpworks org | http://www.pimpworks.org
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