RE: Another DNS blacklist is taken down

["Joel Perez" <jperez () numind net>]

Great,
Just Great. Wasn't there a post a while back that listed what providers
are SPAM friendly? My fingers are getting tired trying to create ACL's
lists to block ranges of IP's without compromising my service. I wish
the power's up above would buy the right software to try and curb the
SPAM but that is not to be according to them. 

So back to my ACL's I go!



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Joel Perez <jperez () ntera net>  | IP Engineer
http://www.ntera.net/                 | Ntera
305.914.3412

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justin Shore [mailto:listuser () numbnuts net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:29 PM
> > To: nanog () merit edu
> > Subject: Another DNS blacklist is taken down
> >
> >
> > I thought ya'll might be interested to hear that yet another DNS
blacklist
> > has been taken down out of fear of the DDoS attacks that took down
> > Osirusoft, Monkeys.com, and the OpenRBL.  Blackholes.compu.net
suffered a
> > joe-job earlier this week.  Apparently the joe-jobbing was enough to
> > convince some extremely ignorant mail admins that Compu.net is
spamming
> > and blocked mail from compu.net.  Compu.net has also seen the effects
of
> > DDoS attacks on other DNS blacklist maintainers.  They've decided that
the
> > risk to their actual business is too great and they are pulling the
plug
> > on their DNS blacklist before they come under the gun by spammers.
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-
> > 8&selm=3f70e839%241%40dimaggio.newszilla.com
> >
> > Ron Guilmette, maintainer of the Monkeys.com blacklists has posted a
> > farewell from Monkeys.com to news.admin.net-abuse.email.  Ron cites
the
> > total lack of interest in the attacks by both big network providers
and
> > law enforcement authorities as the ultimate reason he's pulling the
plug.
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Now+retired+from+spam+fighting%22
&hl=
> > en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=vn1lufn8h6r38%40corp.supernews.com&rnum=
4
> > It's truely a sad day for spam fighters everywhere.
> >
> > So, my question for NANOG is how does one go about attracting the
> > attention of law enforcement when your network is under attack?  How
does
> > the target of such an attack get a large network provider who's
customers
> > are part of the attack to pay attention?  Is media attention the only
way
> > to pressure a response from either group?  These DDoS attacks have
> > received some attention in mainstream media:
> >
> > http://www.msnbc.com/news/959094.asp?0cv=TB10
> > http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/08/28/saboteurs_hit_sp
ams_
> > blockers
> >
> > Apparently it hasn't been enough.  Legal remedies take too long and
are
> > cost prohibitive (unless you're the DoJ).  Subpoenas and civil
lawsuits
> > take months if not years.  Relief is needed in days if not hours.
> >
> > Justin