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Re: Verisign's public opinion play


From: Henry Linneweh <hrlinneweh () sbcglobal net>
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 03:11:34 -0700 (PDT)

Innovation and the Internet
http://news.com.com/2010-1071-5086769.html
 
is about 12 hours old on google news
 
-Henry

Brian Bruns <bruns () 2mbit com> wrote:

Well, I donno about anyone else, but I absolutely suck on the PR end of
things.

Now, I *am* good at writing documentation for end users (I used to work
helldesk).

So, my question is, is there any place on the web where we can go, see whats
been written up so far, find out what still needs to be written, and get
people to fill in the blanks?

I know personally I would love to put out a paper, but I have no idea where
to begin.

--------------------------
Brian Bruns
The Summit Open Source Development Group
Open Solutions For A Closed World / Anti-Spam Resources
http://www.2mbit.com
ICQ: 8077511
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Owen DeLong" 
To: "Brian Bruns" 
; 
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 2:00 AM
Subject: Re: Verisign's public opinion play


I wish it were lack of clue. This is something far more evil than lack
of clue, and, the bottom line is that these guys are much better at
PR than most of us. Since they can't win on engineering, because they
are wrong, they are trying to make it a PR battle instead. They are
having some success. We _MUST_ fight this as a PR battle. We _MUST_
write courteous, prompt, and, factual replies to these publications.
The more people who do that, the better our side will look. We must point
out where Verisign is lying, and, we must concede where they are not.
We must clarify where their technically accurate statements lead to
wildly inaccurate perceptions.

Owen


--On Monday, October 6, 2003 23:15 -0400 Brian Bruns 

wrote:


Wish someone who was good with the clue-axe would take a swing at these
dolts.

We all know they are crying babies because their new method of profit
was
shut down.

Now, the interesting question will be, how can we prevent them from
adding
sitefinder again?


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Brian Bruns
The Summit Open Source Development Group
Open Solutions For A Closed World / Anti-Spam Resources
http://www.2mbit.com
ICQ: 8077511
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kee Hinckley" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 11:12 PM
Subject: Verisign's public opinion play



Take your blood pressure medicine before reading this one.
http://news.com.com/2010-1071-5086769.html
Apparently our objections stem from our lingering resentment over the
commercial use of the internet.

In case you're wondering who the author is, since neither the bio on
the page or Verisign's site is helpful. Mark McLaughlin is a former
lawyer who moved into Marketing and Biz Development (Caere, Gemplus,
Signio and then Verisign payments).
--
Kee Hinckley
http://www.messagefire.com/ Next Generation Spam Defense
http://commons.somewhere.com/buzz/ Writings on Technology and Society

I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to
accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to
regulate
everyone else's.










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