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Re: Verisign's public opinion play
From: "Brian Bruns" <bruns () 2mbit com>
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 02:05:55 -0400
Well, I donno about anyone else, but I absolutely suck on the PR end of things. Now, I *am* good at writing documentation for end users (I used to work helldesk). So, my question is, is there any place on the web where we can go, see whats been written up so far, find out what still needs to be written, and get people to fill in the blanks? I know personally I would love to put out a paper, but I have no idea where to begin. -------------------------- Brian Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group Open Solutions For A Closed World / Anti-Spam Resources http://www.2mbit.com ICQ: 8077511 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com> To: "Brian Bruns" <bruns () 2mbit com>; <nanog () merit edu> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 2:00 AM Subject: Re: Verisign's public opinion play
I wish it were lack of clue. This is something far more evil than lack of clue, and, the bottom line is that these guys are much better at PR than most of us. Since they can't win on engineering, because they are wrong, they are trying to make it a PR battle instead. They are having some success. We _MUST_ fight this as a PR battle. We _MUST_ write courteous, prompt, and, factual replies to these publications. The more people who do that, the better our side will look. We must point out where Verisign is lying, and, we must concede where they are not. We must clarify where their technically accurate statements lead to wildly inaccurate perceptions. Owen --On Monday, October 6, 2003 23:15 -0400 Brian Bruns <bruns () 2mbit com> wrote:Wish someone who was good with the clue-axe would take a swing at these dolts. We all know they are crying babies because their new method of profit
was
shut down. Now, the interesting question will be, how can we prevent them from
adding
sitefinder again? -------------------------- Brian Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group Open Solutions For A Closed World / Anti-Spam Resources http://www.2mbit.com ICQ: 8077511 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kee Hinckley" <nazgul () somewhere com> To: <nanog () merit edu> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 11:12 PM Subject: Verisign's public opinion playTake your blood pressure medicine before reading this one. http://news.com.com/2010-1071-5086769.html Apparently our objections stem from our lingering resentment over the commercial use of the internet. In case you're wondering who the author is, since neither the bio on the page or Verisign's site is helpful. Mark McLaughlin is a former lawyer who moved into Marketing and Biz Development (Caere, Gemplus, Signio and then Verisign payments). -- Kee Hinckley http://www.messagefire.com/ Next Generation Spam Defense http://commons.somewhere.com/buzz/ Writings on Technology and Society I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to
accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager toregulateeveryone else's.
Current thread:
- Verisign's public opinion play Kee Hinckley (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Brian Bruns (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Howard C. Berkowitz (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Owen DeLong (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Brian Bruns (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Henry Linneweh (Oct 07)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Brian Bruns (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Mike Tancsa (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Mark Rogaski (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play william (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Mark Radabaugh (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Steve Feldman (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Will Yardley (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Owen DeLong (Oct 06)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Declan McCullagh (Oct 07)
- Re: Verisign's public opinion play Mike Tancsa (Oct 07)