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Re: data request on Sitefinder


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:11:15 -0700




--On Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:03:09 AM -0500 Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net> wrote:

Owen DeLong wrote:
The issues that must be addressed are the issues of internet governance,
control of the root (does Verisign serve ICANN or vice-versa), and
finally, whether the .com/.net zones belong to the public trust or to
Verisign.  Focusing on the technical is to fiddle while Rome burns.


This is the part that drives me nuts. Unless a court ordered it
otherwise, the root servers can designate ANYONE as the registry for a
tld. My understanding is that the process for making such changes is
lengthy and involves the agreement of 3 different organizations. However,
on a technical level, such changes are possible, and such a registry can
form agreements with ICANN and the various registrars.

I'm suddenly reminded of .org...

I can't tell if you are:
        1.      Agreeing
        2.      Disagreeing
        3.      Making a tangential point to what I said.

I agree that technically, designating a new registry for .com/.net and transferring the existing zone file to that registry is a simple matter. However, transferring the other metadata associated with the registry function and getting the registrars all cooperating with the new registry is a bit more involved. If this is not done in advance of the root switch, there are stability issues involved. If this is not done proactively by ICANN, then the probability of a successful and smooth transition drops dramatically. Getting registrars, a new registry, and the root servers to do ICANNs bidding is probably relatively simple. Having those decisions survive the legal and lobbying-based challenge that will surely come from Verisign as a result is a bit harder (Verisign will claim it has rights to continue until the end of it's contract and, I suspect, will not simply accept ICANN paying out the remainder of Verisigns contract, even if they could). Getting this to occur without the involvement and cooperation of ICANN will be virtually impossible because of the loyalty divisions. Further, it will make it much easier for Verisign to get injunctions preventing the root server operators from switching to an alternative registry (or reversing such
action).

I will remind you that .org was done proactively by ICANN with the cooperation of Verisign and that ICANN made concessions to Verisign to get them to cooperate on the
.org transition.

Owen





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