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Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts... [collapsed RBOC rings]
From: fkittred () gwi net
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 10:09:30 -0500
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:15:11 -0500 "Douglas S. Peeples" wrote:
What you describe is a folded ring and is indicative of either a = temporary solution or bad network design. As a rule, phone companies and capacity suppliers build very robust systems. =20 Douglas S. Peeples Technology Assurance Labs
Are you sure? On or about August 5th, 2003 in Augusta, ME, while cross examining a Verizon employee expert witness in testimony for Maine PUC Docket 2002-243, I got him to say muliple times under oath that 90% of Verizon's fiber rings in the state of Maine are at least partially collapsed, what you call a folded ring... That is, only 10% of Verizon's fiber rings are fully redundant.[1] I don't have any proof of this but suspect that Maine is average and Verizon is average for a US RBOC. I suspect that 90% of US RBOC fiber rings are at least partially collapsed... regards, fletcher [1] I Am Not A Lawyer; the above is my best recollection of the testimony. Documents in regards to Docket 2002-243 are on line off of the Maine PUC web site (http://www.state.me.us/mpuc/homepage.htm) under the virtual case file (http://mpuc.informe.org.) Search by docket number 2002243. For some reason, the testimony is not there. I will ask a PUC lawyer why that is and see if it can be added.
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- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest, (continued)
- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest David Raistrick (Nov 03)
- Re[2]: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Richard Welty (Nov 03)
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- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest JC Dill (Nov 03)
- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Nov 03)
- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Vincent J. Bono (Nov 03)
- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Henry Linneweh (Nov 03)
- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Brian Bruns (Nov 03)
- RE: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Douglas S. Peeples (Nov 03)
- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts... [collapsed RBOC rings] fkittred (Nov 03)
- RE: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts... [collapsed RBOC rings] Deepak Jain (Nov 03)
- Re: Sabotage inv... [collapsed RBOC rings] [Fascinating Reading] fkittred (Nov 03)
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