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Re: Rural nework economics [was: Sabotage...]
From: " John Brown (CV)" <jmbrown () chagresventures com>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:53:00 -0700
OC-48 doesn't have to do with the redundant build. physical fiber path does. thus, who will pay for the redundant fiber build. maybe that should come from the $700 Million the ILEC promised the state in new investment money, in exchange for relaxed regulation. rural or not, capitalism will hinder redundancy unless the shareholders or the insurance companies say otherwise. heck right in ABQ, NM you can kill several LD providers with just 2 fiber cuts. Take them off net for ABQ. On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 12:28:40PM -0700, John Osmon wrote:
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 08:15:11AM -0500, Douglas S. Peeples wrote:What you describe is a folded ring and is indicative of either a temporary solution or bad network design. As a rule, phone companies and capacity suppliers build very robust systems.LATA and ILEC boundaries, along with fiscal measures tend to conspire against rural areas. The result is bad network design or a temporary solution that is going to be in place for decades. By example: I can't imagine Taos, New Mexico needing more than an OC-48 to service all of its voice and data needs over the next few years. The ILEC had a reason (and funding) to build fiber to the city -- but who will pickup the tab for the redundant build? The revenue from the services on a single OC-48 won't pay for it...
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- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest, (continued)
- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Henry Linneweh (Nov 03)
- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Brian Bruns (Nov 03)
- RE: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Douglas S. Peeples (Nov 03)
- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts... [collapsed RBOC rings] fkittred (Nov 03)
- RE: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts... [collapsed RBOC rings] Deepak Jain (Nov 03)
- Re: Sabotage inv... [collapsed RBOC rings] [Fascinating Reading] fkittred (Nov 03)
- RE: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Owen DeLong (Nov 03)
- RE: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Ray Burkholder (Nov 03)
- RE: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Henry Linneweh (Nov 03)
- Rural nework economics [was: Sabotage...] John Osmon (Nov 03)
- Re: Rural nework economics [was: Sabotage...] John Brown (CV) (Nov 03)
- Re: Rural nework economics [was: Sabotage...] fkittred (Nov 04)
- Re: Rural nework economics [was: Sabotage...] just me (Nov 04)
- Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts in Northwest Marshall Eubanks (Nov 03)