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Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement)
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 13:02:25 -0400
In a message written on Wed, May 07, 2003 at 05:37:18AM +0000, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
Calling the NOC, as I said before (which you most likely actually called the customer service number which isn't the NOC), is not productive because no one in the NOC (or customer service group) has anyway to
This is not a knock on UUNet specifically, but does get to the real problem. With many large providers it's not that the abuse/security group is unresponsive, it's that you can't figure out how to contact them, and the catch-all published numbers don't work. This is doubly true when the company has gone to an IVR system, almost none of which have the "I'm not a customer but I want to alert you to something that's real important" option. I think all companies that have separated their customer/peer facing support into multiple groups need more training on how to redirect the call to the right group when the wrong group receives it in the first place. Most often the person answering the phone doesn't know the right place to redirect the call, so it appears to just be an unhelpful support system. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request () tmbg org, www.tmbg.org
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- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISP service level agreement) Phil Rosenthal (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Scott Granados (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) John Payne (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Rob Thomas (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Scott Granados (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Christopher L. Morrow (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Scott Granados (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Tim Wilde (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Christopher L. Morrow (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Scott Granados (May 07)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Leo Bicknell (May 07)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Christopher L. Morrow (May 07)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Stephen J. Wilcox (May 07)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Christopher L. Morrow (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) David Barak (May 07)
- NOC responses when advised of ongoing DoS attacks (Was Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement)) Niels Bakker (May 07)
- Re: NOC responses when advised of ongoing DoS attacks (Was Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement)) Christopher L. Morrow (May 07)
- Re: NOC responses when advised of ongoing DoS attacks (Was Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement)) David Barak (May 07)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISP service level agreement) Christopher L. Morrow (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISP service level agreement) Stephen J. Wilcox (May 07)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISP service level agreement) Rob Pickering (May 07)