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RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering..
From: "Barry Raveendran Greene" <bgreene () cisco com>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:17:55 -0800
CLM> From: Christopher L. Morrow CLM> This can be VERY dangerous, the default part atleast. At one CLM> point we, as an experiment in stupidity (it turns out) CLM> announced 0/1 (almost default). We quickly recieved well CLM> over 600kpps to that announcement. This in a very steady Announced via IGP or BGP? I hope/assume the former, but am somewhat surprised at the traffic volume... even for UUNet.
I'm not surprised. My experience with defaults in ISPs is the same. The router advertising the default (or any large prefix) becomes a "packet vacuum" for any spoofed source packet returning backscatter and all those other auto-bots and worms looking for vulnerable machines. It turns the router into a sink hole. What saves many providers today is that these large route injections are spread across all their peering routers. This is like anycasting the prefix advertisements. People are discussing is putting these advertisements on anycasted Sink Holes. So instead of having the CIDR prefixes and the Null 0 lock-ups on the peering routers, you would put them on anycast Sink Hole routers. The anycast spreads the packet black hole load over several sink holes spread over the network. Barry
Current thread:
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Mark Segal (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. E.B. Dreger (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. jlewis (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Stephen J. Wilcox (Mar 10)
- Re: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Joe Boyce (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. jlewis (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Haesu (Mar 10)
- Re: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Joe Abley (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Christopher L. Morrow (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. E.B. Dreger (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Christopher L. Morrow (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Barry Raveendran Greene (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. E.B. Dreger (Mar 10)
- Re: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Daniel Roesen (Mar 10)
- Re: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. E.B. Dreger (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. E.B. Dreger (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. E.B. Dreger (Mar 10)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Mark Segal (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Mark Segal (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Haesu (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Michael . Dillon (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Rob Thomas (Mar 10)
- Re: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. James-lists (Mar 10)
- RE: 69/8...this sucks -- Centralizing filtering.. Rob Thomas (Mar 10)